Posts by Sea Breeze

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Holy Spirit - Present or Gone in the Congregations?

by BourneIdentity in

i was doing some reminiscing and remember the days back in the late 80s and early 90s where i truly could say the meetings were so encouraging and that i felt the holy spirit present and operating on all of us.

today when i attend, there is nothing of the sort.

is it because jehovah has withheld it?

Sea Breeze

I was raised a JW and was baptized in 1986; then left with the November 15th issue of the WT in 1995 when they jettisoned the generation doctrine and removed the statement on the inside page of the Awake about how Armageddon would come before the generation of 1914 would pass away. I was never Df'd.

After about 8 years, I became a traditional non-denominational Christian, attending a medium size Bible Church. In Christianity, you don't feel special, but you do feel peace. You are a sinner saved by Grace ... "not of works, lest any man should boast".

Salvation is a two-part process. 1. Conviction of sin, and 2. Acceptance of Christ's blood covering offered at Matthew 26: 27, 28 "for the forgiveness of sins".

The first is an action of the Holy Spirit and the 2nd is an action from your own volition. The Will of God and the Free Moral Agency of man meet here. .

From my point of view, I can now compare my two experiences. As a JW, I had in fact experienced a supernatural conviction of sin, but I had been prevented from accepting the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins". So, although I believe I experienced a move of the Holy Spirit at the beginning of becoming a JW, most of the later JW experience was a false specialness kinda feeling that I felt from being in the "right" club...as opposed as to being in a right relationship with God.

Now, I feel much smaller, and God (especially Christ) seems much bigger. The Holy Spirit now edifies my spirit with inner peace as I've slowly learned to trust again.

Hope that helps.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

I perceive a study article coming soon on the subject of divine authority. The OS (other sheep) will again be told to just leave it in Jehovah's hands. We have to respect and obey divinely appointed authority.....remember, David did not kill Saul when he had the opportunity. He said in 1 Sam 26:9 "who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD'S anointed, and be guiltless?"

Carefully selected scriptural references will be proffered such as:

Don’t let me hear of your suffering for murdering or stealing or making trouble or being a busybody and prying into other people’s affairs. 1 Peter 4: 15

This should be your ambition: to live a quiet life, minding your own business and doing your own work, just as we told you before. 1 Thess. 4: 11

The following scriptural references will likely NOT be included:

Matthew 24:48-51	Drunkards warned about the return of Christ and His judgment.
Luke 1:15	Greatness of John the Baptist linked with his total abstinence.
Luke 12:45	Christ warns against being enmeshed in drunken evils.
Luke 21:34	Warning against drunkenness and the cares of this life,
Romans 13:13	All are admonished to walk honestly, not in rioting and drunkenness.
Romans 14:21	Drinking causes a brother to stumble. Importance of example.
1 Cor. 6:10	No drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cor. 11:25	The Lord's Supper no place for wine. Word "wine" not even used. Instead all accounts say "the cup" or "fruit of the vine."
Galatians 5:21	Revelers in drunkenness shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:18	Direct command that exhilaration shall be of the Spirit and not by wine.
1 Thess. 5:7	Sobriety enjoined upon the Thessalonians.
	1 Timothy 3:3,8,11-12 Church officers must not drink; neither should their families. And the #1 Scriptural Reference that *will not appear* in the coming article on Divine Authority? Drum Roll ..................... They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. - Mt. 23:4

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

If you listen closely, Tony recommends, "Best to just test them all and taste them".

His advice on the Jameson? "You can't go wrong with that". This is a man who knows his way around a liquor store.

I just got back from a CR meeting (like AA) a few minutes ago. I know a fair bit about alcoholism. This WT leader is a stone cold alcoholic in my opinion. Alcoholic's primary relationship is with their drug, not people. Alcoholics frequently engage in various risky behaviors because of this.

He ran out of hooch, plain and simple. Which is panic time for an alcoholic. That's why he took the chance to go load up on a Sunday morning.... When he was least likely to be ID'd and bring reproach on the church.

Knowing the risk of bad publicity, He weighed that against having to deal with reality while sober. The addiction won and so did we.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

Perhaps now they will admit that after 105 years of stating that they have 100% proof of the legitimacy of 1914, they are left with only 86% proof.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

I’m sure that evening the Scotch spirits were helping him proclaim prophetic utterances as he transformed into a gibbering body.

Gives new meaning to the term: spirit-directed organization.

P. S. Somebody help me! I can’t stop.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

I just can’t get over the trench coat and hat disguise. Might as well have donned a beard and some fake tattoos as well.

The time left is reduced for the WT. Let us eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we may be broke.

Hard times at Bethel these days.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

Slam 'em down while you can Tony. There are no liquor stores where you are going.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

Sea Breeze

Footage taken 11:00am on a Sunday morning - Wow That is no accident. He figured all the JW's would be at a meeting and he could get away with it. I hope the active JW's think about what their leadership are doing while they are suffering through boring meetings on Sunday mornings.

Remember those who led you, who spoke the word of God to you; and considering the result of their conduct, imitate their faith. Hebrews 13: 7

Here's to clandestine trench-coat scotch drinking on Sunday mornings Tony! Bottoms up

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Preparing the sheeple for finally abandoning the significance of 1914

by under the radar in

we all know the society would love to get rid of all the problems caused by clinging to 1914 and all they claimed it meant for the last 100+ years.. it looks like they are laying the groundwork for easing away from the whole concept of 1914. this would also let them do away with the ridiculous "overlapping generation" bullcrap.

what a diaper load that has been.... anyway, the following is from their super secret marching orders for april, 2019. draw your own conclusions.... "3.

“100 years of faithfulness”: the coordinator of the body of elders, or another elder, should be invited to read the following special announcement.

Sea Breeze

It is hard to imagine them abandoning 1914, even at the expense of looking supremely foolish with all their "generation" explanations.

The reason is simple: If Jesus didn't return in 1914, then the Gentile Times haven't ended. And, if the Gentile Times haven't ended, then all the promises made to annointed believers in the New Testament are still "game on" for believers. All believers can still be anointed (born again)....and can still be guaranteed a not-guilty judgment based solely on faith in Christ's blood - As opposed to a works-based salvation that the WT tries to saddle everyone else with.

Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus

And, since this imagined exclusivity is where Watchtower leaders garner their authority, they would lose their coveted position as the remnant of Christ's Brothers and hence at the same time lose their status of the sole dispensers of "food at the proper time" and all other self-glorifying identifications they indulge in.

Keep in mind that it is still official Watchtower doctrine that the entire NT was written only to annointed christians.

If they abandon 1914 this opens up the prospect of rank and file members appropriating the commands, promises (and authority) contained in the NT for themselves, which would drastically diminish the position of the WTBS, effectively dismantling it.

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Military Service Debate

by Steel in

i got into a debate with a jw today about everything tonight and of course it all came back , we would never take up arms against each other , the mark of true christians, the two greatest commands blah blah blah.

i tried to make my case against it but he took a very simplistic approach.

a got home, did some research and found two new testament stories different about the great faith of roman centurians.

Sea Breeze

The first gentile christian was an active duty Roman Army Officer - Cornelius. End of discussion.

Romans 13: 7 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Cf. (1 Peter 2:13-20)

This command obviously includes military service since no government can exist without a military. So, since the institution of human government is divinely required at this time, so is the institution of a military divinely required.